Pool Survey-Closed

Do you think another pool would be asset to our community?

The Sandy Pines Board of Directors has heard your concerns and understands that many members would like another pool option, possibly an indoor pool to replace the one we recently lost. We also understand that many members have differing opinions on the best future pool options and the underlying costs with not only constructing a new pool/facility but also maintaining it throughout the life of the pool/facility.

The Board has assembled a Pool Committee to fully research all options and costs for future pool/facilities. Our first goal is to find out what is most important to members and how much they are willing to invest into the construction and ongoing maintenance costs of the pool/facility. Once we have this information, and if we have support from our members, we'll pursue gathering more detailed data and opinions from members in order to start researching further pricing and options.

This survey will close on Sunday, November 10, 2019. Upon closing, the Pool Committee will compile the results and present the summary of findings to the Membership in December. At that time we'll also outline the direction and next steps we'll take based off feedback from our community.

Although we have voted on pool proposals in the past, many of you have brought this issue forward and stated that the last proposal was not detailed enough.  This survey and process will help the Pool Committee do a better job of putting together  a proposal that you can support.

When taking the survey, please answer all questions to the best of your ability based off your initial feeling and avoid trying to read, speculate or interpret anything into the questions. They are written with the goal of soliciting unbiased opinions.

If you are unclear on any of the survey questions, have technical questions, or feedback regarding the operation of this survey, please contact the Sandy Pines Communications Team at communications@sandypines.com or 616.896.8315 x107.

For any further questions regarding the coordination and implementations of a future pool, please contact the Sandy Pines Board of Directors at boardofdirectors@sandypines.com or by visiting sandypines.com/boardofdirectors

Thank you for taking time to complete this survey. Your feedback is appreciated!

27 Comments

  1. Karen Hudson on October 23, 2019 at 12:10 pm

    I feel a pool would be great but you would have to have the funds to take care of it without straining the membership for the fees. Also if you could passably find a restaurant that would be in their similar to what was there 17 or so years ago that could help pay for that might help

    • Randall Deaton on October 23, 2019 at 2:04 pm

      Golf is not free, unless you wail which very few do

  2. Monica Hurley on October 23, 2019 at 12:12 pm

    Building a marina for inside people is a better idea, instead of cluttering up the lake front with boats so we can’t see or play in front of what we paid for, and they did not pay for.

    If you are going to put a pool in, do not build a plain ole pool. Make it rocky with a waterfall and make it a salt water pool. This way it isn’t as expensive to maintain. Make it unique from the others.

    • Pat Gleaton on October 30, 2019 at 3:47 pm

      I believe we all own the lakefront as members of Sandy Pines. We all pay the same amount of dues for this amenity. Who are the “they’s”??

  3. Linda on October 23, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    Maybe if we charged the people who like to golf like we do the people who like to use their boats we could afford a new pool. The people who loved the golf car wooded trails were punished because of a few who could not follow the rules, so it was closed. The dirt bike course was closed for similar reasons. Yet if there are issues with the golf course it is not only left open for use but free of charge to members. The indoor pool was an asset and we pay dues to keep our park running. Obviously our indoor pool did not receive proper care and up keep now you want more money from members. How about selling the golf course that was purchased with money from our dues to replace the existing indoor pool asset we should have fixed before buying a golf course and then not charging our members to play.

    • Randall Deaton on October 23, 2019 at 2:07 pm

      Need pool in phase 2, but not indoor.
      Indoor pool was voted down last year. Why is the issue coming up at meeting.
      VOTED DOWN MEANS NO

    • Paul Dolence on October 24, 2019 at 11:34 am

      I so agree with selling the golf course to pay for the pool and a restaurant

      • D. Amerson on November 10, 2019 at 12:12 am

        I am also in agreement with selling the golf course and making it a separate entity from Sandy Pines.

    • Judy Tarantino on October 28, 2019 at 6:17 pm

      Members and associate members all pay to play when they use the golf course. I know this because my husband golfs 4 or more times a week and pays each time.

  4. Dennis Vanderiest on October 23, 2019 at 1:40 pm

    An adult pool only something you can swim laps in ( no a pee pool where everybody stands around ) ,covered building with garage doors all around so you can open it up in summer. Handicap accessible, make all the water park kids only .

  5. Pamela Holler on October 23, 2019 at 2:09 pm

    I believe we need another pool to relieve the crowding at the water park.

  6. Mel Disselkoen on October 23, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    Sent in the survey about the pool but don’t know if you received it
    Mel Disselkoen lot 247.

  7. Barbara J Murray on October 23, 2019 at 3:03 pm

    Thanks for getting our opinion.

  8. Jim on October 23, 2019 at 3:07 pm

    An indoor pool would definitely be a plus for the park and would add value to each members site.
    But, I suppose the BOD would want an additional 10 year “assessment” to pay for it ( on top of the already $400 a year capital contribution each member pays)
    I think the $$$ spent on the so called storm shelters was very cost ineffective and a waste. Should have constructed a large structurally sound building centrally located….with a pool inside.

  9. James Bandy on October 23, 2019 at 3:54 pm

    From reading the comments from those who have been here much longer appear to have respectful comments. They demonstrate that more fact finding/research is very much needed.
    I emphasize FACT finding to avoid unexpected costs . That’s assuming the pool idea is even a good one. Appears to be a possibility that other ideas other than a pool may need to be explored. Respectfully, Jim Bandy

  10. Deb on October 23, 2019 at 4:43 pm

    If we have to add another pool, it would be great to locate it near the Phase 4 beach where you could have a retractable enclosure around an olympic-size pool (for laps, classes, swimming, etc.), separate cabana-style restrooms/showers/locker rooms (for both the pool and beach) and a sun deck (partially shaded) for people to enjoy the pool/beach/playground atmosphere.

  11. Deb on October 23, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    Additionally, I believe the existing golf course assessment should be swapped out with a pool assessment, if the membership agrees to move forward. It would seem that the golf course should be self sufficient and, if not, a solid marketing program should be instituted. While Sandy Pines has fantastic amenities, we risk losing membership with constant increases in dues and new, long-term assessments.

  12. Sharon Reusz on October 24, 2019 at 10:14 am

    Thank you for asking!

  13. Scott on October 24, 2019 at 10:56 am

    I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THE PARK AND THE POOLS NOT BEING OPEN FOR THE FULL SEASON WE PAY FOR. IF IT IS NOT GOING TO BE OPEN FROM APRIL 15TH TO OCTOBER 15TH THEN I WILL NOT VOTE FOR IT. I also believe if you want to come to a park with a lake then you should swim in it. If you want to go to a pool then it should cost twenty five cents a person to enter.. It does not sound like a lot of money but it will add up. Like the golf corse and the cable TV, everyony should not have to pay for a few. If I have guests and they want to swim in the pool then they can pay the same price as a member. Just like the price of the arcade games, everyone must pay to play.

  14. JIM OUDMAN on October 24, 2019 at 1:58 pm

    IF YOU WANT TO GIVE SWIMMING LESSONS, PICK A TIME AT THE WATER PARK FOR THAT.
    OTHERWISE YOU HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM AT OUR WATER PARK FOR ALL WATER RECREATION!
    WE DON’T NEED AN INDOOR POOL. SAVE THAT MONEY FOR WHITTLING DOWN OUR DUES.
    I WAS A MEMBER OF SANDY PINES FOR OVER FORTY YEARS AND SAW S.P. SPENDING GO UP & UP. SO IT WON’T BE LONG THAT ONLY DOCTORS AND LAWYERS CAN AFFORD LIVING AT S.P. ..!
    WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ‘CAMPER FRIENDLY’ ATMOSPHERE? S.P. IS TURNING INTO A ‘CITY’!

    • Bryan on October 24, 2019 at 9:20 pm

      You probably also want to buy a new car for $7000 like you did 40 years ago. If you shop around for different camping recreational facilities, you will find Sandy Pines to be a very affordable place.

      • Jim on October 29, 2019 at 7:47 am

        Sandy Pines is affordable. We budget our dues and continue to use the park as a family getaway. Weekend members are not interested in funding or subsidizing a retirement community filled with every amenity one can think of. Why not create a two tiered membership and allow those that wish to pay for their amenities continue to do so at a price they wish to afford.

  15. Joan Dorschel on October 26, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    The pool in phase 3 could be used more if when the life guard isn’t there, it would be for adult only. There could be a time frame.

  16. Jim on October 27, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    We need to replace the indoor pool! It was a capital asset that we paid for and that added to the resale value of our place at Sandy Pines. More importantly it was a huge part of our kids and our family fun at Sandy Pines. Swimming lessons were so much better then. Lessons have dwindled since the indoor pool was lost. We loved going there on rainy days too when there isn’t much else for families to do. You owe it to us to rebuild this asset and preferably on the very same site. Do not let the senior citizens keep this from happening. We are. It a retirement community. We are a family resort for all ages. We are willing to pay for it. So the right thing and build it.

  17. Sheila on October 27, 2019 at 11:06 pm

    An indoor pool is important, especially for a community like Sandy Pines. Swimming lessons have really decreased without the indoor pool. It is miserable to sit by a pool on drizzly mornings. It must be even more miserable to take lessons in the cold. Also, swimming lessons are not just about learning swimming. The old indoor pool was an important piece of Sandy Pines. Children learned swimming but the adults would chat and meet with other Sandy Piners. Currently people scurry between pools to get kids to different pools for different age groups. Also, as a parent or grandparent it is a HUGE benefit to be able take wiggly kids swimming on rainy afternoons and evenings. Finally, to stay healthy, Sandy Pines really must keep the needs of young families in the forefront so that our children and grandchildren will want to come and also invest in the property here like we did.

  18. Gene on October 28, 2019 at 3:44 pm

    If there is a question of maintenance fees why did the annual dues not reflect a negative when the pool was no longer being maintained. Sandy Pines will find a reason to raise the dues but when the elective has been paid for the dues are not reduced once the indoor pool was torn down our dues should have went down or there should have been an explanation what the pool funds where being used for.

  19. Laurie on November 10, 2019 at 2:04 pm

    Wait until the $400 go away before adding another cost for the pool. It seems that raising cost is getting out of hand. Sandy Pines need to stay affordable for members that is there and new possible members.

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